Ha ha ha.

[stoney321]

I get to go on a field trip to Gunter's Greenhouse today with a Master Gardening buddy, yay! And then lunch at a place called "Chocolate Angel." I have high expectations. Also: I have NOT watched Heroes yet, so DO NOT SPOIL ME HERE. I'm avoiding all of your posts like the plague until I see it, thanks.

The following is brought to you by a series of quotes from "The Breakfast Club" with Mr. S this morning. I can't explain the randomness, either.


Why Wrestling Is Gay, Aside From The Obvious Spandex Costume

Terminology Used in The Sport:

• pile-drive
• jackhammer
• bear hug
• rear positioning
• pain compliance (!!)
• ground and pound
• submission hold
• Anaconda choke
• harness (a hold that encircles the opponent's TORSO, usually diagonally)
• half and full Nelson
• rear naked choke
• grappling
• stand-up grappling or clinching
• take downs
• dominant positioning
• mounting

Okay, But Really. The Costume

1. It's called a singlet. ...aaaand is a COSTUME.
2. They carry HANKIES (to stop blood, but still. HANKIES.)
3. It exposes their nipples
4. Two syllables: SPAN-DEX.
5. they wax and oil their bodies
6. The prize? flashy. gold. belts.

So! *claps hands and rubs* Who wants to write me some Rome fic with Pullo and Vorenus practicing some old school Greco-Roman Wrestling? :D

Comments

[cherusha.livejournal.com]

Heroeeessss! OMG you have to watch. I am still all gaga over this episode.

[stoney321.livejournal.com]

Okay, I caught up and I'm ALL CONFUSED! But in that "I can't wait until next week" way. DUUUUUUUUDE.

(And are you feeling better?)

[cherusha.livejournal.com]

(much!)

*heart*

[beanbeans.livejournal.com]

Mr beanbeans is addicted to that Ultimate Fighter show on Spike TV. I have to admit, when I'm not cringing at the beatings the guys are giving each other, I am very O.O at the half-nekkid, sweaty grabbyness of it all.

O.O

Have a fun field trip and lunch! :D

[stoney321.livejournal.com]

I mean, SERIOUSLY. Gayest. Sport. Ever.

We had a TERRIFIC time! I hope your day was lovely, too!

[brunettepet.livejournal.com]

Anaconda choke??? Okay, hot coffee snorts are painful.

A field trip and Chocolate Angel? You're living right.

[stoney321.livejournal.com]

I cracked up when I heard the term "anaconda choke." And the field trip and food were FANTASTIC. Yay!!

[thepiratequeen.livejournal.com]

Who wants to write me some Rome fic with Pullo and Vorenus practicing some old school Greco-Roman Wrestling? :D

I just went to a very happy mental place after reading that.

[stoney321.livejournal.com]

Man, I'd take some Octavian/Mark Antony or Mark Antony/Vorenus or ANY COMBINIATON OF THOSE, plz.

[luthor-kinney.livejournal.com]

OH MY GOD.

CAN YOU BETA FOR ME?

[stoney321.livejournal.com]

(this is Brandi, right?) I'm heading out the door, but will be back in a few hours, so if you can hang on until after lunch, absolutely!

[luthor-kinney.livejournal.com]

It is and I totally didn't realize I had changed screen names. SWEET. I'll send it to you when it's ready.

[lettered.livejournal.com]

So I'm still on S1 of Rome. I want to know if Pullo and Vorenus ever get to--well, Pullo/Vorenus. And if not does anyone actually think they might? I guess what I mean is, is that possible on HBO, as it wouldn't be on say, prime time NBC? I got to the Octavia/Servilia part, but of course for some reason, lesbianism is so much more acceptable than male homosexuality, for reasons I've never been able to grasp. The show is nicely attentive to the spirit of relative acceptance of the times. I like how they offered Octavian a boy, in his first-"penetration" at the whorehouse scene. I thought he was going to pick a boy. I thought it was a cop-out, actually, that he didn't. Even TKMommy of all people, said, when they took him to the whorehouse, "but what if he wants a boy?" but then there were boys there so I suppose TKMommy was satisfied. Anyway the vibe between Pullo and Vorenus is very explicit and very purposeful, and I'm just wondering whether there's a possibility there'll be follow-through. Then again, part of what's interesting about Pullo/Vorenus is the fact that they are so gay but don't really know it; they might in fact be less interesting to me if they knew what they were doing. It's not something I want for the characters so much as I'm curious to know what kind of risks the show would take. I've never really watched many cable shows, this is certainly more explicit (nicely so) than any tv program I've watched, so I don't know how far it will go.

[lettered.livejournal.com]

Oh, dude, and I love your icon. Oh yeah and thanks for the lynnevitational invite; I'm sorry if that was...imposing.

[stoney321.livejournal.com]

Puh, not imposing at all! (I thought I had seen your name already, so don't worry about it.)

[brandil.livejournal.com]

Not being a scholarly type person I can only offer the vaguest of explanations and direct you to a journal, but not the actual entry which explains.

My vauge explanation: In Rome, a man's manliness was caught up in penetrating someone. Be it male, female, goat, or penetrating with the sword instead of the penis. Men who were penetrated were reviled and seen as feminine which was about the worst thing you could call a Roman Male.

So Pullo/Vorenus getting to the actual penetration? Not gonna happen and there's historical evidence to back it. I can however see lots of nice handjobs and lots and lots of frottage. I imagine even blowjobs would have been out of the question because of the penetration angle.

Personally, I wanted Pullo to be the one Octavian penetrated. Oh well.

look to vaznetti's journal for actual facts. she's/he's a Roman Scholar.

[lettered.livejournal.com]

Oh, that makes a lot of sense. In fact I think I might've known that at one time, and just forgot.

Be it male, female, goat

Thanks for that, hon. ;o)

I'm actually more interested in what the limits of a show like this are, considering what other cable shows are like (again, I have no idea), what the show's producers or whatever are willing to risk and what the possible audience reception would be. I mean, so Vorenus/Pullo getting it on is not very historically reasonable and not even viable for the characters. But would we see, say, Pullo taking a male whore to satisfy his lust? Or indication that he had, if the show doesn't show it explicitly? Or Vorenus doing so, or Octavian, or whatever. I mean, the show is willing to take on suggestions of homosexuality between males; is it willing to imply that its main characters would engage in it and to what extent?

[brandil.livejournal.com]

Compared to Queer as Folk it's very tame. But QaF had a different intended audience so I haven't any idea how far they're willing to go. I was pleasantly surprised they offered young Octavian boy whores and VERY disappointed he didn't choose one. I can't remember from your comments if you're caught up in S2? Without being spoilery, there is an instant of a young boy prostituting himself to another man. The family took great offense NOT because the boy prostituded himself to a man but because the man didn't give the FAMILY the money.

[stoney321.livejournal.com]

So far, there's not been any "interaction" between Pullo/Vorenus on a physical level, but there's a HELL OF A LOT of implied interactin.

But they're not pulling punches really, although it's not as graphic as Queer as Folk was. And also, Pullo/Vorenus seems to be like you said: they don't REALIZE their undying love for each other. Yet. ;)

Re: My Rome Fic: gayness is teh new hotnesss!

[thepiratequeen.livejournal.com]

HA!!!!

Best. Rome. Fic. EVAH.

ANd he put it in his roman butt and they did it like lions because it is a metarphaor for how strong and powerful they are and lions ares trong.

That's way deep, yo.

[a2zmom.livejournal.com]

Chocolate Angel? I'm thinking of Boreanaz and my mind has gone to a happy place.

There are people who argue against the gayness of wrestling?

[stoney321.livejournal.com]

Hahahahaha! This place was as far from that as possible. (Think old lady tea room) The food was good and the company excellent, so there you go.

Apparently there are! Puh. THey've obviously never SEEN it.

[entrenous88.livejournal.com]

It's...sad that I am woozy enough that guys wrestling naked with oil does not sound appealing to me right now.

OMG, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH ME FOR REALS, STONEY!

[stoney321.livejournal.com]

THERE IS SOMETHING MAJORLY WRONG, OH NOES!!!!

Oh, your poor oogie tum. Would a phone call later help pep ya uup, Mr. Taggert? Or do you just needs hours and hours of sleep and weak tea?

[entrenous88.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure if I can make it to phone call time, so a little later in the week, if possible, would be better for me. Are you leaving Friday, or earlier? *gets out datebook*

[stoney321.livejournal.com]

I'm leaving at like, 6am on Friday (gaaaaaaaah) so Wed. or Thurs. night is good at my end, or next week, mosdef.

*fluffs a pillow for you*

[demonqueen666.livejournal.com]

rear positioning, submission hold, rear naked choke, dominant positioning, mounting

*dies laughing* And good morning to you too!

Definitely with you on this one: wrestling = gayest "manly" sport EVAR.

[stoney321.livejournal.com]

I mean, SERIOUSLY. How gay is it? It's soooo gay... (insert joke here)

Heeee!

[anelith.livejournal.com]

Hee! To the wrestling gayness. Hoo boy. My Rome DVD arrived today from Netflix!!!! But -- we are going to catch up on Heroes tonight first. I have my priorities, after all.

Sounds like you had a great day! Gardening and chocolate (at least, with a name like that, I suppose you had some chocolate?).