[personal profile] stoney321
The chick that's all "Kristallnacht" is a great name for an HP RPG, and it will have humor! And sex! But be frowny face serious, too, zomg. [ETA] BAHLEETED! Anyone get screencaps? I'm getting them on the comm page.

She's a Mormon and threw out the religion card. The "My people were persecuted, too!" card. OH MY GOD. It's like the heavens opened and gave me a special treat. Here, allow me to hand you your ass, "Marie Antoinette:"

1. The Mormon suffered some persecution. SOME. For, say, 10? 12 years? Max. MAX. They had a handful of guys drug out of their beds and tarred and feathered, for example. Guess why Joseph was? Because he was doinking the guy's sister and she was a 14 year old girl. Yep, just like the entire Cohen family of Eastern Poland being wiped out, among many, many others. Like... hmm. A few million? The Mormon Experience is just like that, except for all the ways it ISN'T. Also, try going back to 2000 years of persecution, or did you drop out of high school (see her user info) before you learned math? 2000 =/= 12.

2. Disagreeing with you isn't being an "extremist." That's your way to sublimate your own racism. I see you're from a tiny, Mormon suburb of Phoenix. Oh, got it. You're an idiot who lives in a state where they don't honor Martin Luther King, Jr., either, and thrive on the cheap and illegal labor you want, but don't want to see. In other words: I got your number.

3. Since YOU pulled out the religion card (I'm Mormon, I know persecution) I'm going to hammer you until you see sense, or fix this problem. Can. Not. Wait. Also? How in the FUCKING HELL does she know persecution in an all white, middle class WHITE AND MORMON community? You don't. You know nothing. Probably shouldn't have dropped out of school.

Classic Mormon counter argument. I should write a book. Oh, wait. *G*

[ETA] They do not know how to argue. And clearly have shit for brains.

[ETA 2] So, here's Marie"Let them eat cake" Antoinette on her LJ calling me out because at least she's not making fun of the Jews. (I would have replied differently if I knew first off who it was LIKE THIS. My immediate reaction is: I've upset someone, I fix it fast.) Also, I would like to apologize publicly to [livejournal.com profile] amireal for starting potential wank in her journal as a) I don't know her personally and b) she doesn't need extra drama over in her house. Very sorry.
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Date: 2008-05-03 09:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thebratqueen.livejournal.com
Marry me. Seriously.

Date: 2008-05-03 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beadattitude.livejournal.com
Don't forget the girl who said this (marieantoinette, aptly enough)

I am not going to dwell on the past and harbor ill feelings towards what happened. It's been nearly 70 years. It isn't a matter of not respecting the dead. We didn't name the game "Auschwitz", we named it after a night in history when something very horrible "began", but the holocaust does not singularly come down to that one night.

I had fun formulating a reply to that. ::seethes:: My topic?

"Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it."

But, J says I'm hot when I'm pissed off and ranty. Good thing!

Date: 2008-05-03 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stoney321.livejournal.com
I can be in Massachusetts in a few hours. Find a cake. (I like Italian cream, but I'm good with whatever you suggest, dear.)

Date: 2008-05-03 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thebratqueen.livejournal.com
I'll get the frilly things for the honeymoon!

Date: 2008-05-03 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stoney321.livejournal.com
She's PERFECTLY named, yes? "What? Let them eat cake! [/behead'd]

I mean, I know the EXACT place she's coming from. Kinda sorta doing good Mormons wanting to live in the 'burbs with big, empty houses to fill up with babies to do the Lord's Work. It's the Mormon Persecution Complex that has me itching. I know JUST WHY she thinks it's okay to do what she does, and it's my biggest beef with the fucking LDS.

Date: 2008-05-03 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] julia-here.livejournal.com
I was waiting for you to say something about that, since I myself was just sort of opening reply windows and sputtering and hitting the back button.

Julia, and now, more errands!

Date: 2008-05-03 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stoney321.livejournal.com
LOVELY. (I'm partial to see-through lace boy shorts, myself.)

Champagne and cocktails are on my To Do list.

Date: 2008-05-03 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stoney321.livejournal.com
I just found it about... fifteen minutes ago checking my flist? I can't type FAST ENOUGH to get in on this shit. WOWEE. On the other hand, she's going to help me get my point across with minimal effort. *G*

Aww, I love your fritilary icon. Lovely.

Date: 2008-05-03 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thebratqueen.livejournal.com
Gmail suggests Asian bras as a related topic to this conversation. I'm not sure if that's your kink, but I'm willing to try new things.

Date: 2008-05-03 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com
TONE OMG TONE.

Date: 2008-05-03 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beadattitude.livejournal.com
Here's what I said to one of her defenses, which got my dander up but GOOD. ACK.

What interests me now is the whole"don't dwell" and "we wuz persectuted," which seems a bit...oh...what's the word?

No, seriously, what's the word, I'm too mad to think.

Date: 2008-05-03 10:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slasheuse.livejournal.com
Why would anyone. I mean, really, why would anyone. WHY.

HOW IS IT THE SAME. IN NO WAY. THAT'S HOW. Like. Like... oh god, it's just not. NOTHING'S the same, nothing has ever been the same - lots of persecutions through history have been horrific, but nothing has ever been like the Holocaust, ever. Not even the THOUSANDS OF YEARS of persecution Jews had PREVIOUSLY suffered managed to be like the Holocaust. WHY would anyone. Why would anyone think a DISCLAIMER would help, etc etc.

Date: 2008-05-03 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stoney321.livejournal.com
*shakes magic 8 ball*

ALL SIGNS POINT TO YES.

Date: 2008-05-03 10:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stoney321.livejournal.com
I KNOW!!!!!!!!

Oh, if she doesn't respond soon, I'm flooding that post. Or, you know, commenting again. And again. Holy sheep shit.

Date: 2008-05-03 10:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com
I am watching gratefully.

I'm wore out.

Date: 2008-05-03 10:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stoney321.livejournal.com
I! KNOW!!

Clearly, she grew up in a cult that brainwashed her into thinking that a) she, too, is Jewish and b) she suffered similar problems just like the Jews (see a) and c) guys, they're not real people, we're just naming things after real people and events, tchuh!

Which all boils down to: MORON.

Date: 2008-05-03 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stoney321.livejournal.com
Girlfriend, we got it. You got, like... all the others. :D

Date: 2008-05-03 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com
LOL!

I AM WATCHING THE DISCOVERY CHANNEL "I love the whole world" COMMERCIAL ON REPEAT UNTIL I WANT TO COME OUT OF MY ROOM AGAIN.

Date: 2008-05-03 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stoney321.livejournal.com
Gimmie an H!
gimmie a Y!
gimmie a P!
gimmie an O!
gimmie a crite!

WHat's what spell? MARIEANTOINETTE!

Date: 2008-05-03 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stoney321.livejournal.com
I second that plan! Also: puppy paws. Find some. Press against nose. Inhale. Repeat as needed.

Date: 2008-05-03 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com
EEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

Yis.

&hearts

Date: 2008-05-03 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beadattitude.livejournal.com
\o/ THAT'S IT!!! Whew. Thank you.

I just want to bite people like this, which is, you know, why I gave up coffee. Because the idea, while caffetnated was getting very attractive. Bead + Caffeine = Near Total Inability to Suffer Fools = Difficulty in Maintaining Cool, Reasoned Arguement.

Date: 2008-05-03 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beadattitude.livejournal.com
ZOMG, when someone says, "I'm a bitch," as their very first self-explanation? ::giggles madly:: I'm sure her mommy is so proud.

Take HER DOWN, Stoney.

Date: 2008-05-03 10:27 pm (UTC)
jerusha: (anyabahhumbug)
From: [personal profile] jerusha
Ack! She is deleting comments as quickly as they go up. NO FAIR! I want my wank, dammit!

But your response was absolutely priceless. Love it.

Date: 2008-05-03 10:29 pm (UTC)
jerusha: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jerusha
But also... Okay. I like history. It's cool. I love WWII history, because it's fascinating, and I've read some about the history of the Mormon church because I have to work and go to school with a bunch of them.

Naming something Kristalnacht is bad enough, but then claiming it's okay because you faced persecution as a Mormon? There are no words for that kind of stupidity.
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