In which my head asplode
Jan. 13th, 2005 11:23 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
stoney321I've been lurking about LJ reading all kinds of stuff. Wanna know what the main topic of discussion is? you already know. Slash vs. Het. The other thing in our fandom that's a huge divider (and this comes as no surprise) is the FIERCE Buffy hate. People LOATHE Buffy. Which is funny. Because in their tirades against the evil chick, they devalue the entire series (and its spin-off). Because the show IS about her. Not the secret backdoor banging of Giles and Andrew. Not the SOOOO obvious love between Angel and Oz. (Oz TOTALLY forgave him for trying to kill the love of his life. Serious.) The only gay relationship on the shows was Snyder and Clem. COME ON, People!! (The series is called BUFFY the Vampire Slayer. It's All. About. Her. And her satellites.) This is a monster sarcasm rally, BTW.
And so, I give you the argument for Buffy's importance in the fandom, pro and con, as well as shipper wars as discussed by MicroBiologists and Molecular Geneticists.
Ribosomes = fandom
Amino Acids = Buffy
Purines = (adenine=Tara) (guanine=Spike)
Pyrimidines = (thymine =Willow) (cytosine = Angel) (uracil=Xander)
Genes = Jossverse
DNA = the shows, etc.
nerd 1: We can all agree that amino acids are the building blocks of protein, correct?
nerd 2: False. New studies have shown that carboxyl (-COOH)is the building block of amino acids, so boo-yah.
nerd 1: Well, certainly you can agree with me that adenine and thymine belong together. I mean, for fuck's sake. Guanine is ALWAYS paired with cytosine. Look at the evidence!
nerd 2: False. You are completely ignoring the case in which (within the ribosome) the tRNA has a new pair: uracil and guanine. The ribosomes are the powerhouses of the cell, bitch. And by cell, I mean LJ.
nerd 1: LJ? Is this a new pair? Are Watson and Crick fools?
nerd 2: Let's get back on topic. When DNA is opened for transcription, it always opens in a 5' --> 3' direction. Cleary this is because of the need for Wes/Gunn/Fred fic.
nerd 1: What are you talking about? It costs a lot to run these electron microscopes, and you are dithering on about fictional people. Focus, Wendell!
nerd 2: Alright. Let's talk about the importance of your "amino acids." Your amino acids are selfish. They only care about getting created, then witter off, worrying about themselves.
nerd 1: Did you breath in the contents of ts98205-A again? Amino acids are merely trying to HELP. Without amino acids, your ungulates, your phytokeroids, your Cyanea capillata would cease to be.
nerd 2: Without a triplet of codons consisting of the various nucleotide pairs, amino acids wouldn't even be a BLIP on the radar.
nerd 1: But see, the fact that DNA is a double helix is something you are completely ignorning. It's the SHAPE that defines life. Wrapped together, circling each other, winding in on itself...
nerd 2: What the hell are you talking about?
nerd 1: I'm talking about the two separate strands coming together, balancing each other out, causing it all to exist in the first place.
nerd 2: Right. But let's not forget mutations. Weird shit that happens when a base pair is altered, begining with the AT pair. It morphs into a UG or GC pair then gets out of control.
nerd 1: I'm working on missense mutations where something completely foreign is substituted in a place where it doesn't exist.
nerd 2: Duh, I'm a molecular geneticist. I know what it is, dumbass.
nerd 1: I think this all boils down to Spike having a big dick, and being a complete whore.
nerd 2: Right. Which is weird since he was only with three people (four, if you count Angel.). Huh.
nerd 1: SO you coming over later to check out my new Boba Fett figure? I got two. One to stay mint, the other for, well... You know.
nerd 2: Right. To bang Leia, my brother! High five me!
they attempt a high five, but being science nerd, miss by a country mile and knock over a tray of flasks. Their boss walks in.
Boss: *shaking his fist* Johnson!! Wendell!!
They go back to their microscopes and petri dishes.
I need something in my body that is NOT caffeine. And I am NOT working on a parody of The Godfather with the Buffyverse characters. Nope. Not at all.
And so, I give you the argument for Buffy's importance in the fandom, pro and con, as well as shipper wars as discussed by MicroBiologists and Molecular Geneticists.
Ribosomes = fandom
Amino Acids = Buffy
Purines = (adenine=Tara) (guanine=Spike)
Pyrimidines = (thymine =Willow) (cytosine = Angel) (uracil=Xander)
Genes = Jossverse
DNA = the shows, etc.
nerd 1: We can all agree that amino acids are the building blocks of protein, correct?
nerd 2: False. New studies have shown that carboxyl (-COOH)is the building block of amino acids, so boo-yah.
nerd 1: Well, certainly you can agree with me that adenine and thymine belong together. I mean, for fuck's sake. Guanine is ALWAYS paired with cytosine. Look at the evidence!
nerd 2: False. You are completely ignoring the case in which (within the ribosome) the tRNA has a new pair: uracil and guanine. The ribosomes are the powerhouses of the cell, bitch. And by cell, I mean LJ.
nerd 1: LJ? Is this a new pair? Are Watson and Crick fools?
nerd 2: Let's get back on topic. When DNA is opened for transcription, it always opens in a 5' --> 3' direction. Cleary this is because of the need for Wes/Gunn/Fred fic.
nerd 1: What are you talking about? It costs a lot to run these electron microscopes, and you are dithering on about fictional people. Focus, Wendell!
nerd 2: Alright. Let's talk about the importance of your "amino acids." Your amino acids are selfish. They only care about getting created, then witter off, worrying about themselves.
nerd 1: Did you breath in the contents of ts98205-A again? Amino acids are merely trying to HELP. Without amino acids, your ungulates, your phytokeroids, your Cyanea capillata would cease to be.
nerd 2: Without a triplet of codons consisting of the various nucleotide pairs, amino acids wouldn't even be a BLIP on the radar.
nerd 1: But see, the fact that DNA is a double helix is something you are completely ignorning. It's the SHAPE that defines life. Wrapped together, circling each other, winding in on itself...
nerd 2: What the hell are you talking about?
nerd 1: I'm talking about the two separate strands coming together, balancing each other out, causing it all to exist in the first place.
nerd 2: Right. But let's not forget mutations. Weird shit that happens when a base pair is altered, begining with the AT pair. It morphs into a UG or GC pair then gets out of control.
nerd 1: I'm working on missense mutations where something completely foreign is substituted in a place where it doesn't exist.
nerd 2: Duh, I'm a molecular geneticist. I know what it is, dumbass.
nerd 1: I think this all boils down to Spike having a big dick, and being a complete whore.
nerd 2: Right. Which is weird since he was only with three people (four, if you count Angel.). Huh.
nerd 1: SO you coming over later to check out my new Boba Fett figure? I got two. One to stay mint, the other for, well... You know.
nerd 2: Right. To bang Leia, my brother! High five me!
they attempt a high five, but being science nerd, miss by a country mile and knock over a tray of flasks. Their boss walks in.
Boss: *shaking his fist* Johnson!! Wendell!!
They go back to their microscopes and petri dishes.
I need something in my body that is NOT caffeine. And I am NOT working on a parody of The Godfather with the Buffyverse characters. Nope. Not at all.
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Date: 2005-01-13 09:27 am (UTC)That said...this was the funniest thing ever. And I love you.
::buys you an imaginary microscope::
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Date: 2005-01-13 09:34 am (UTC)*readies her glass slides*
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Date: 2005-01-13 09:30 am (UTC)I am so in love with you.
::works your nucleotide pairs into a messy lather::
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Date: 2005-01-13 09:36 am (UTC)Hee! You did see that I wrote some Gilbert/Anne fic for you and my other Gilbert-phile, right?
::contemplates meiosis, is too fagged out from the replication of codons, falls asleep instead::
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Date: 2005-01-13 09:56 am (UTC)Hee!
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Date: 2005-01-13 09:57 am (UTC)HA HA HA!
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Date: 2005-01-13 10:12 am (UTC)This was furiously funny.
And this ?
"People LOATHE Buffy. Which is funny. Because in their tirades against the evil chick, the devalue the entire series (and it's spin-off). Because the show IS about her." what you said , baby!
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Date: 2005-01-13 10:40 am (UTC)Hee back atcha!
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Date: 2005-01-13 10:51 am (UTC)I think this all boils down to Spike having a big dick, and being a complete whore.
Good lord, I love you. *wipes tears from eyes*
And I never understood the Buffy hate. I love Buffy Summers! Say it loud and say it proud!
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Date: 2005-01-13 10:54 am (UTC)I can understand liking other things MORE, and being interested in other things, but HATING her? Huh? And people call her selfish which is just odd. Unless you're Dawn, and then I can see it.
And your icon is the hotness.
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Date: 2005-01-13 11:05 am (UTC)LOVE the icon. Our little manpire-whore is so purdy.
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Date: 2005-01-13 11:09 am (UTC)Buffy is and forever will be, to put it eloquently, da shit, and Buffy-haters are just jealous cuz she gets all the good action.
Godfather? Bwah, bring it on, can't wait!
(orange tabby cats. not hamsters.)
Date: 2005-01-13 11:21 am (UTC)And there may come a time, but not today, when I will ask a favor of you. And that is to post more of your Buffy/Giles fic
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Date: 2005-01-13 11:10 am (UTC)Or instead of a gun, she can be holding an electron microscope.
Or I can just offer you cheese. *offers cheese*
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Date: 2005-01-13 11:23 am (UTC)*breaks open the crackers to go with the cheese*
I mean, Trivial Pursuit CAN'T be wrong: Q: What are the building blocks of life? A: Amino Acids.
BOOYAH! :D
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Date: 2005-01-13 11:23 am (UTC)Because really, that intensity of hatres should be saved for, like, Slade Gorton, and not expended on a mere fictional character.
Julia, always convinced the SG was in league with the Forces of Darkness
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Date: 2005-01-13 11:42 am (UTC)UNDERLINE, UNDERLINE.
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Date: 2005-01-13 11:40 am (UTC)Learning is fun! I heart Buffy. I heart her so hard. Eh. I love everybody but Eve. And she even made me laugh a time or two.
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Date: 2005-01-13 11:44 am (UTC)Wow. I should step away from the petri dish. I miss you!! Quit being good at work! (just kidding, but only sorta)
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Date: 2005-01-13 11:51 am (UTC)As I told
I've gone on at length to
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Date: 2005-01-13 01:38 pm (UTC)Huh? I just don't understand it, not trying to say they are bad. I let the geneticists say it for me. Hee!
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Date: 2005-01-13 12:08 pm (UTC)I read your thing and being kinda "special" when it comes to science, I was too "special" to understand all of it.
But my thoughts are in allignment with yours, I think. How can one love Buffy without liking Buffy?
With regards to the het/Slash debate. My opinion on a great many things go with this. If you don't like it, no one is forcing you to read it. If you think Alias is a bad show with a bad actress who's dating a bad actor, turn it off. Jeez! If you don't like slash or het, no one is forcing you to read it.
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Date: 2005-01-13 12:12 pm (UTC)Oh.
Wait.
Remembers what we're talking about.
Guess it's just humans, then, not an American thing at all...
Damned humans.
Julia, you'd think with my academic specialty I wouldn't have to be reminded about humans
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Date: 2005-01-13 02:19 pm (UTC)You've opened up a huge can of worms here, though, about the Buffy-bashing. For myself, I don't hate Buffy - a quote from an essay I did on her character in season 2.
"Yes, Buffy has a number of disagreeable personality traits, but this makes her more interesting than a perfect Hero, more human and more deserving of our sympathy. She is only guilty at this time of the short-sightedness of youth, and in wanting to have it all.
She’s accepting who she is, but it doesn’t mean that she has to like what she is. She wants to be the pampered only daughter, popular in school, with the biggest problem in her life being her choice of shoes or dates. Instead, years before we’re presented with Dawn, Buffy is big sister to the world. She’s self-centered, she moans and she’s self-important. This simply makes her the same as any other teenager – and it’s justified. Yes, you can dislike Buffy, that’s allowed. All I ask is that you try to understand her as well."
If she has an off day it could very well be the end of the world. Literally.
The fans need to remember that they were lucky to get not just one, but two series that had lots of interesting characters, the majority of whom had major personality evolutions - don't even get me started on Jonathon.
I think a lot of Buffy hate in the fandom is due to misrepresentation in fanfic. The fb that I clutch tightest to my expansive chest is for "Superheroes" - a situation that I could very easily Buffy-bash in, but that's not right. I'm over the moon that I've had people say that they hate Buffy, but they liked her in my fic.
And what an excellent analogy - you are so clever and funny. I'm kinda jealous.
A lot.
You know I love you, right?
Date: 2005-01-13 02:43 pm (UTC)I have no issues with people who want to read/write specific things. Have at it. What I DON'T understand is people being "grossed out" about het. Seriously. And the people ARE het. Huh?
I like slash (obviously) and I like the kink (you know that first hand.) But I don't attack people for not liking the same things I do, and then call them stupid, anti-feminist, homophobe, etc. for not liking the same things. I just find it all very head-scratchy.
And I have almost polished off that entire Galazy bar. I have slapped my husband's hand away several times. I gave him the toffee/prailine like candies instead. WHICH ARE FANTASTIC!! Num.
Re: You know I love you, right? - Yep, just platonically, though.
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Date: 2005-01-13 02:29 pm (UTC)Wow. I must have missed that episode - please tell me that Oz's guitar is okay?
:p
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Date: 2005-01-13 03:23 pm (UTC)2. Buffy... annoys me at times, but I love her. 97% I adore her. The other 3%, well, hell, no one's perfect. 'Cept me. No, really.
3. Right. To bang Leia, my brother! High five me! Action Figure Love!
4. I heart you hard.
5. List over.
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Date: 2005-01-13 03:33 pm (UTC)Hee!
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Date: 2005-01-13 03:35 pm (UTC)I lurve Buffy. But not in a gay way.
I'm still pissed off at Watson and Crick over that whole Rosalind Franklin thing.
And hee! Nerds are funny.
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Date: 2005-01-14 05:48 am (UTC)Nerds ARE funny!
Keep in mind that 5' --> 3' WHEN GCC GCA TGT GTC AAG CGA AGT TAA TGC ACC + -COOH in replication = Spike has a big dick
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Date: 2005-01-13 09:25 pm (UTC)And I am not looking forward to reading the parody you are not writing of the Godfather with the Buffyverse characters. Nope. Not me.
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Date: 2005-01-14 05:49 am (UTC)*hands you cotton balls, secretly swabs your blood and places on a slide for further observation*
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