WHEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
Mar. 17th, 2005 09:57 amHAPPY ST. PATRICK'S DAY!" and Happy B-day to
solipsae!
I'm going to check your journals, and if there isn't green, you're getting a pinch. And I don't mean a comment by
xanphibian, either.
The sun is shining, the tank is clean, yummy breakfast, chatted with friends, off to walk 8 miles in the sun. Whee!! I want some LJ spam today. I want to know why (or why not) certain things squick you, certain things turn you on, gimmie! And NO this has nothing to do with my recent fascination (obsession) with Connorcest. Nope. I don't like incest, BTW. Well, THERE'S a sentence I never thought I'd write. I don't think anyone LIKES incest. *facepalm* I'm not sure what it is about Connor that makes me want hurt/comfort, but boy hidey, I do.
What does it for you? Spike shanshu-ing and finding Buffy? Xander being bent over by Spike/Giles/Forrest? Ha ha. I want the bullet-proof kinks here. Gimmie!!
I'm going to check your journals, and if there isn't green, you're getting a pinch. And I don't mean a comment by
The sun is shining, the tank is clean, yummy breakfast, chatted with friends, off to walk 8 miles in the sun. Whee!! I want some LJ spam today. I want to know why (or why not) certain things squick you, certain things turn you on, gimmie! And NO this has nothing to do with my recent fascination (obsession) with Connorcest. Nope. I don't like incest, BTW. Well, THERE'S a sentence I never thought I'd write. I don't think anyone LIKES incest. *facepalm* I'm not sure what it is about Connor that makes me want hurt/comfort, but boy hidey, I do.
What does it for you? Spike shanshu-ing and finding Buffy? Xander being bent over by Spike/Giles/Forrest? Ha ha. I want the bullet-proof kinks here. Gimmie!!
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Date: 2005-03-17 08:02 am (UTC)Speaking of green, rained here yesterday, settled the dust and put enough growth on the yard grass (NOT lan;putting a fence around Seven Star Pasture Mix and mowing it six or seven times a year does not a lawn make) that I need to start with the threats of gross bodily harm to those who can get the mower started to cut the stuff or be maimed.
Julia, shuddering at any more code, thanks to all those AAW posts
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Date: 2005-03-17 08:06 am (UTC)I drug out my 10 blade reel mower Monday and got an upper body workout. (It weighs about 45 pounds, but I have a putting green! Not technically, but you get my meaning) I think I convinced my husband to put in more flower beds. Plants = less work than grass, by a LONG shot.
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Date: 2005-03-17 08:47 am (UTC)Oh, yeah, you know it. Thing is, we're on excessively drained coarse sand, according to the guys who do the septic tank permitting, so we have 1000 square feet of drainfield, none of which can have shrubs or anything useful on it, five trenches three feet wide and four feet apart and I am so not up to basic math this morning. Anyway, it amounts to about 50'X50' of mown lawn, with another 20X10 between the house and the greenhouse, and then there's the insanity which is the shade yard, about 30X50, with mown paths and flower beds and a big native plant bed.
Oh- and the iris garden, where I really need to get ground wood and mulch all the paths because they're a 100% bitch to mow.
Green. I'll be green in a bit. Must go wake up and check cows (six babies now, on this place, plus another 20 or so in the Angus herd).
Julia, feeling sedated
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Date: 2005-03-17 09:57 am (UTC)I wonder if you could grow Buffalo grass in your 50' X 50' spot? It's a prairie gras = no supplemental water, no mowing, pretty.
I'm putting in a bluebonnet flower bed later today. *cough*in the shape of Texas*cough*
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Date: 2005-03-17 10:02 am (UTC)We don't irrigate the lawn so it's only mowed spring and fall.
Julia, we've got the neighbors trained to not use lawn chemicals and feed clippings to the cattle
Green! We're talking green!
Date: 2005-03-17 10:11 am (UTC)*nods at your good sense*
Or he can take a piss out there every day.
<font color="#33cc33"</font>LJ Spam!!!
Date: 2005-03-17 09:31 am (UTC)KINKS: Funny. If you can write the funny (parody, Jossian dialogue, et al) I will follow you anywhere and drool on your feet. (As you, dovil, violet, aeryn, et al, can tell by your damp toes.) Hmmm...is that really a kink, or more of a mission statement?
Dudes in eyeliner. As we discussed yesterday, this ain't nothin' but pretty.
Spike mumbling expletives and descriptives as he shags Angel/Xander/whoever. I can't write it, but I've read some Spike naughty speak that fogged up my retinas.
Angel really, really wanting Spike/Xander and desperately trying to hide it. I love me some vulnerable Angel.
Characters having big, long Jossian speechifying about why the S/X, S/A, X/A love is wrong, and then eyeball melting smut following it. It's a Baptist thing. I need to be told how wrong it is first...
And, damn, am I vanilla. Well, vanilla for a chick that writes vampire arse lovin'. What would that be??? Like, chunky vanilla bean vanilla?
SQUICKS: No. 1? People taking the Jossverse way too damn seriously. If I wanted to read the boys as written by Anne Rice, I'd just re-read "The Vampire Chronicles" and scratch out all the Lestat and Louis and replace it with Spike and Angel...and this pretty much covers most of my squicks (heavy handed S/M with no explanation, Master! Master! Spike or Angel, most stuff that's really dark. I'm not a dedicated follower of schmoop, or anything, but basically I just want to read the show. With more sex. Unless it's AU, and then all bets are off.) So I guess my squick is: bad writing. And chicks with dicks. But dudes with eyeliner is okay. Like, way okay.
*green writin' here*
Date: 2005-03-17 09:59 am (UTC)Eyeliner? Check.
Hot and well written? Check.
Minus the Anne Rice BS? Check.
Hot lingo? Minus "pussy bone?" Check.
Chicks with dicks a no no? Big CHECK. I like MEN, thanks. (Well, I like women, but I like a bit of MAN in my man. Insert dick joke here_______.)
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Date: 2005-03-17 10:25 am (UTC)Pussy bone!!!!!!!!
Re: *green writin' here*
Date: 2005-03-17 10:45 am (UTC)I'm not saying it is a kink, I'm just saying it is something I enjoy.
As far a actual kinks go, I have a hand kink. Hands on faces, grabbing, etc? yes please. I love things that are just about hands touching (though I like that too) but things that are about how hands feel.
Also re: 8 miles in the sun, I hate you.; It snowed here today. I live in NC. Today is St Patrick's Day. It snowed this morning. That is just wrong. So wrong.
Re: *green writin' here*
Date: 2005-03-17 11:00 am (UTC)Spike: Angel!!! You didn't tell me you loved me - eternally - before you left this morning, and I've seen the way you've been looking at that Wesley down at the office...and when was the last time you brought me flowers? And you didn't even comment on my new black 501s!!!!
Now, say, Faith with a strap-on? Not something I'd mind. Where to find them, though, that is the question...
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Date: 2005-03-17 11:16 am (UTC)Yes yes, I'm against those as well.
Overly purple prose and characters that don't make sense = bad.
Neener neener neener!!
Date: 2005-03-17 11:07 am (UTC)"Chicks with dicks" isn't the def you are thinking of. It refers to folks who write boys in fic (say, XANDER) to be a woman who happens to have a penis. Meaning, they have forgotten that the person they are writing is a MALE. Like, forgetting about the balls and having them do something that would cause an actual man INCREDIBLE discomfort.
That's what I meant.
I, too, would like to find a strap-on fic. Guh.
Re: Neener neener neener!!
Date: 2005-03-17 11:19 am (UTC)Now actual chicks with strap-ons, OMG guh and there should be fic. Between Faith, Lilah & Cordy (hell thrown in Kennedy too) at least one of them should have a toy collection. I'm just sayin.
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Date: 2005-03-17 10:09 am (UTC)I generally am not into incest fic. That being said, I don't see Angel/Connor as incest. Huh? Lemme 'splain. "Connor" is a baby. Forever a baby. Stephen - was the child/is the young man now. (As in, S4 timeline) Holtz, for better or much, much worse is the "father" of Stephen.
Angel's family (Darla, Dru, Spike) is a family of fabrication, and I think Connor fits into that. It isn't incestuous when Darla and Angel (make a pairing, pick a pairing) come together, so it isn't the same for me.
Now. There is a sense of parenthood/ father-son/ you belong to me/ trust that is at risk in C/A, but not like you having a baby, or you and your brother.
Ultimately, it's a new kink and I'm all about the justification. (Kink as in Connor/Angel, not any other incest fics that may exist)
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Date: 2005-03-17 10:20 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-03-17 11:14 am (UTC)The Connor/Angel stories I've read have all been handled by writers who knew what they were doing. I'd hate to see them in the hands of someone less skilled. That would squick me out.
PS At this moment it is snowing. For some reason, I blame you. ;)
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Date: 2005-03-17 01:28 pm (UTC)As to Connor/Angel, have you seen the Counting Bodies vid? OH MY GOD. It will turn the non-Con into OMG, Connor!
*hides chicken bones and fragrant smoke that brought about your snow*
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Date: 2005-03-17 11:32 am (UTC)Man, you made me read incest fic and it was ...hurty.
I find I get more sqicks the more I read. I used to read everything, but now there's certain stuff I'll only read if it's by a particular author like (see above) or RPS.
Most of those Authors are Tesla! i think it's the affection she has for the characters, makes reading her...affirming, or something.
Not that I don't like a good dose of h/c and heroism every now and then.
(Not going to talk about mad silly Stoneyfic cos that would be smooching)
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Date: 2005-03-17 01:31 pm (UTC)And I'm quite particular. There have been many fics where I've started, and after a few paragraphs(sentences) have had to say out loud, "No thanks!" and click away. I'm sure there was a BUNCH of that in my LJ this week. most of my flist is Spuffy or Spander.
I just like reading good fics, and if there's good smut? Bring it.
(But my heart will always belong to the Parody...)
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Date: 2005-03-17 11:35 am (UTC)Hurt/comfort. That's the main one, the one that encompasses most of the others. I generally like the more physically vulnerable of the pair to be the hurtee (so Angel comforts/defends/rescues Wesley, Spike comforts/defends/rescues Xander, etc). This is a common paradigm, and one really prone to being badly and/or preposterously written, so the ones who do it well (TheBratQueen, Willshenilshe, the Reality Bends RPG, the Snakes and Ladders RPG, and many others) have my eternal gratitude. The bigger the hurt the better, as long as the relationship remains stable. I like the conflict/trauma to come from the outside.
The courtly love is also fun: Vampire Boy mooning over Human Boy from afar, devoted, wanting him, but feeling unworthy.
I also really like the vampire/human relationship because of the OMG!mortality!angst. Nothing's better than a nice long schmangsty fic where Human Boy gets hurt, gets cared for, and gets better, but Vampire Boy is still shaken to the bone by the reminder that his lover will die for real one day.
By that token, I really don't like turning fics. I like Vampire Boy to think about it, ask about it, maybe even beg to do it, but Human Boy must demur. Plus, I really can't see Xander or Wesley going for it.
I don't have any real squicks (other than extremely underage stuff, I guess) but some things that don't interest me are among the most popular with others: Crossdressing, bdsm, bloodplay, most Spangel (unless it's funny, in which case it's gold), hatesex, and, um graphic sex in general. Yeah, I kind of just skim over it unless it's really emotional or else reall, really good. I'm here for the hearts and flowers, dammit!
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Date: 2005-03-17 01:34 pm (UTC)It depends on my mood (and the writer) Read a FANTASTIC and EXPLICIT fic last night that was just RAW. I think there are some writers who can give you all the details and sensation of experiencing what the charactes are without resorting to shoving a camera up someone's ass and counting off the hairs, you know?
I don't generally like the turning fics, either. It seems a cheat somehow.
Happy St. Patty's Day to you! We're Scots! Um, Mr. Stoney is. NA Indian and straight-up Danish for me. *drinks anyway*
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Date: 2005-03-17 12:13 pm (UTC)Hee! and boy hidey:)
Can't answer. Writing pr0n.
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Date: 2005-03-17 01:35 pm (UTC)Gimmie!
*PINCH!*
For you anyway. You're too cute not to!
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Date: 2005-03-17 12:25 pm (UTC)Kinks: Giles spanking or being spanked, British accents in general, m/m in the library, oh, who am I kidding, m/m anywhere, Anyone smashing Spike against a wall and then kissing him, fun B/D, and have you read that thing JaneDavitt wrote about Giles and Oz and Xander and Devon at the Spa???? OK, I'll be in my bunk.
Giles. Guh. Yes, please.
Date: 2005-03-17 01:40 pm (UTC)I am so there on Giles' dolling out the punishment. Guh. That being said, I have ABSOLUTELY NO DESIRE to read about Oz in a sexual manner. None. Nada. Seth Green does nothing for me sexually. He's the guy I want to hang out with on a patio late at night. Or go camping with. He was the perfect first boyfriend, and therefore (IMO) innocent of sweaty sex. He was just the cool guy to hang with and have sweet cheek to cheek moments with. And I know I'm in a shrinking minority... (It took me FOREVER to figure out who "Devon" was. And apparently the guy is HUGE in fandom! Who knew?)
But don't leave me Pat!! I can't help that I'm HEAD OVER HEELS in love with Connor/VK!! *cries* He's so innocent and strong and evil and feral and thin with perfect little dark nipples... Hee!!
Re: Giles. Guh. Yes, please.
Date: 2005-03-17 01:43 pm (UTC)Hooray for our own kinks! Writing you from the home of the kinkless SO, xox
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Date: 2005-03-17 05:03 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-03-17 01:46 pm (UTC)*waves hello*
Date: 2005-03-17 01:59 pm (UTC)So... Any faves? Rec, please! :-D
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Date: 2005-03-17 02:53 pm (UTC)There's a link on my lj to more of my fav fics, check there (http://www.livejournal.com/users/lirm35m/5119.html) for a lot more slashy goodness.
Re: *waves hello*
Date: 2005-03-17 05:40 pm (UTC)*ahem* If you want to read Angel sticking it to Connor for the first time (uh, better than that sounded) skip back one on this journal *ahem*
Slef-pimping in one's own journal isn't bad, right? *BG*
Thanks for the links!!
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Date: 2005-03-17 06:41 pm (UTC)Re: *waves hello*
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Date: 2005-03-21 10:33 am (UTC)Re: *waves hello*
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Date: 2005-03-17 02:57 pm (UTC)And my dad, who's Scottish (but secretly half-Irish), tells me that St. Patrick was from Scotland, so Mr. Stoney can celebrate away!
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Date: 2005-03-17 05:41 pm (UTC)Squicks and Kinks
Date: 2005-03-17 04:10 pm (UTC)Pedophilia- no explanations necessary. Creepy, psycho,stalker Wes is not sexy to me. If I see Angel/Wesley in a story I more than likely will not read it. Angel/non Spike(William)-this isn't really a squick. Angel with anyone other than Spike and his incarnations does nothing for me SEXUALLY. However, I will read the story if it is well written. I may even like that story, but it probably won't turn me on. Having said that, Bangel does nothing for me either, on the show or in fic. Giles/any Scooby-no, just no. Rape is not a turn on, especially if you have the victim and the rapist end up together acting schmoopy::gag::.
Kinks::
I adore Angelus (not Angel) with just about anyone. Keep in mind that a relationship with Angelus would more than likely will be f'ed up. I'll probably read Spike with anyone as well. I adore Spike in all his personas, all of them I say!!! If he is with Angel, Angelus, or Liam, I'll adore it even more. No matter how many times it is done I will forever love Angelus taking William's virginity ::sighs::. I know it has been done to death, but gah!! Whore,Slut,Stripper!Spike in eyeliner and leather pants does it for me. If a fic is funny, I'll more than likely overlook the flaws. This is the same if the fic is teh hawt. I also like fics where people fight over Spike like say Connor and Angel. Connor/Spike/Angel is my ultimate OT3. Any recs?
Maybe I'm not as kinky as I thought? Or maybe I am? I can't tell anymore...
Happy SPD!!
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Date: 2005-03-17 04:23 pm (UTC)I just read a fic by stakebait here that is GUH. Just... Lord. Sponner.
I'm still looking...
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Date: 2005-03-17 05:48 pm (UTC)Thanks!!!!
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Date: 2005-03-17 07:49 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-03-17 05:07 pm (UTC)Stuff I like: Spike talking dirty (god, that VOICE!); Angel being goofy and shy; one of them seducing the other, wearing down their resistance; and loads and loads of sexual tension. I wish I were better at sexual tension. It makes it so much more fun when they... you know... untense.
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Date: 2005-03-17 05:43 pm (UTC)Spike taking dirty is a GOOD one.
And staring at your icon would be another. Guh.
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Date: 2005-03-17 08:36 pm (UTC)Vampires! I've realized lately that I really dig vampire porn & not just Buffyverse vamps. In fandom, it's Spike/Angel or Spike/Angelus or Spike/Buffy. Aw hell, it's pretty much Spike fucking or getting fucked by anyone! I'm not really into RPS because when I read it I tend to picture them in character anyway. Good writing is important. I like humor when it's well done. Don't really care for Connor. Giles naked does nothing for me. My favorite characters are Spike, Angel, Willow, Buffy, Fred, Wesley & any combination of them is good.
Major squicks are incest (although your Connor/Angel was a well done exception) child porn (I just can't imagine why anyone would get into HP porn) and rape.
At this point I'm still learning what I like. I've actually only been reading fics online for less than a year. I blame all my LJ friends who are into it! Y'all are a bunch of pervs. *grin* Luckily I've got no desire to start writing it so I won't lose my entire life to it...
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Date: 2005-03-17 10:40 pm (UTC)Also, I'm not into the bitey stuff. I don't see the OMG!!1HAWTNESS!!!! of it. *shrugs* Or Buffy and Giles. Eeeeeew.
Although most Spuffy is pretty craptastic, I do get excited about a few of the really good fics. The ones where Buffy and Spike are all pained and angsty drive me crazy. In the bad way. If Buffy is complete devoid of all humour and speaks proper English using words with more than three syllables correctly, I feel like poking my eyes out. She was no dummy, but she wasn't a Rhodes scholar either. The OOCness kills me.
Also, Ganya totally does IT for me. I love my Ganya. I know lots of people find Ganya squicky, but I eat it up. YUM! YUM!!!
Heehee! You're extra cute when you're giddy!