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mpoetess and wendylouwho. Hope your b-days are filled with good stuff, food, friends, and laughter.
Now, perhaps you've heard of this show called Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and it's L'il Brudder, Angel...
Do you know about this? Have you heard about this? And for those of you who have been around these parts a spell may have noticed that I like the funny. Stoney loves the jokey jokey. But that doesn't mean that's all there is here: poop/dick jokes. Okay, it's a big part of what's here, but there's a reason. Let's all jump into the way-back machine...
Laughter is the Best Medicine
It's an old saying, but god, isn't it true? how many times have you been with a friend, snot on your face, chest heaving with sobs, and they'll pull a face, or make a joke and it just gets... easier? Not for always, but right then? Or there's something horrible happening in the world, and Jon Stewart and the gang at TDS just rip it apart and make you laugh at it? And instead of feeling a cloud hanging over your head, you can laugh at the absurdity of it all? Because folks, life is fucking absurd. Michael Jackson may get off. (ba dum bum ching!) Bush is in the White House. Again. Laugh or cry. I pick laugh.
Now, how the hell does this fit into BtVS and fandom? Well, I'll tell you. Without the jokes, Buffy and Angel would just be another show. Yes, the dialogue is phenomenal. The angst is so, so hurty. But I can think of ten shows that have that. Now, throw in how goddamned funny (and angsty, and philosphical, and well written) it was/is, and now you have something that is so incredibly unique, we're all hanging out here everyday making new stories, essays, songs, art, etc. Because the show was/is so freakin' good.
And I'll admit that I'm late to the game of fandom. Never wrote fanfic before Buffy. Didn't know people did that sort of thing. I was stuck with all my wanna be artist friends writing bad poetry, essays, etc. and wishing I could go write for SNL one day. Or anything on Adult Swim. So when I found "this," I soaked up Philly like a SPONGE. Read anything and everything coming down the pike, trying to figure it out. And realized: lots of ff writers must read a LOT of Anne Rice. And make Spike and Co. dress up their mouths in Anne's words. Which isn't Joss and ME's words. But... to each his own, right?
And I kept reading (I don't always comment. If I am not onboard with the fic, I may keep reading and not fb, or I may click away. But I check out a LOT of stuff out there) and started getting depressed. Because it seems like THE VAST MAJORITY OF FF WRITERS write the sad stuff. They (certain writers) like to hurt, bang and bruise my beloved characters - over and over and over and.... And again, to each his own.
But why I may not want to read that type of fic is because that writer seems to have forgetten a fundamental element of EVERY SINGLE BUFFY/ANGEL EPISODE. There was a joke. In every one. And it helps the story. It helps the tension. It helps make things REAL.
Example, using two of the most hurty episodes on Buffy. Ones I go ahead and grab the box of tissues and a cat in preparation.
The Body
Oh, Joyce. I just bawl in this one every single time. When Anya is crying and trying to make sense of how Joyce won't ever have ______ again, and how stupid and mortal death is.... How perfectly sad and raw that is. And then Xander wants to kill something and Willow pouts and puts up her dukes. How I miss that relationship between those friends. Or Xander punching the wall and being stuck. Tension breaker, had to be done. (You can't cry ALL the time. You have to let SOMETHING else out of your system.)
The Gift
I'm a sucker for the swan-dive. Oh, Buffy... With your pants creeping up your tushie... (I wonder If SMG ever watches that and wishes she could have pulled those pretty pants out of her crack?) But back to the episode. Ow. Gratitude mixed with incredible sadness. All of the gang creeping to her broken body (oh, I could cry just typing this!) Giles having to look away and mentally steeling himself to LOOK. To WATCH and later, record. Spike. Dawn. Willow crying on Tara. (I'm totally bawling now.) And then.... Tombstone. It's the "A Lot" at the end. So perfect. A smile when we REALLY need one.
I'll let you in on a secret: wanna know why S6 didn't work for so many of you? Willow/Xander snark is gone. Xan/Anya snark is gone. Buffy/Giles snark is gone. Re-watch it and tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. Dare ya. Dark, dark, trouble, gloom. Bah. THAT'S why you don't like it. Oh, yeah, and the character assasination. But that's because they were all FUNNY!! And then they weren't!
And, um, that's why I may not be reading your fics. Not *you* you, but some of you out there that I don't know well. You're writing the dark and more dark and gloom and where's the levity?
And then there's me. And I'll be the first to tell you I'm wrong. I am! I laugh at HORRIBLY INAPPROPRIATE things. Because I'll cry about them, otherwise. I saw the pilot ep of South Park (my god, has it been 9 years??) and thought the heavens had split open and a light was shining down on me. These... these are my people. They joke about NAMBLA. About sex-change operations. About a shitty, mean fat kid who's mom is a German Porno star and a hermaphrodite.
And I know from funny. Bob Newhart? Fucking hilarious. So dry I need a glass of water to watch his act. Don Rickles? Dear, god. In your face, insulting, balls-to-the-wall funny. Totally opposite humor from Bob Newhart. Would it surprise some of you to know they have been best friends for over 40 years? I STILL laugh at things Mark Twain wrote. Carol Burnett was my GOD when I was a child. Screw Lucille Ball (I can't stand her, BTW), gimmie Carol Burnett as Mrs. huWiggins, or as Scarlett O'Hara with the curtains literally draped off her shoulders. She was my first hero. I spent five years working the comedy circuit learning the art of a joke. How to make people in front of you laugh. How to make a joke come full circle in a ten minute set. Not always a winner, because the shit is HARD. But that's mostly delivery....
There are a lot of talented writers out here. So talented I boggle at them not being paid to continue to entertain me with their turn of a phrase. You can *write* and write well, but don't be afraid of the joke. Don't be afraid to make people laugh out loud. It's one of the most powerful feelings in the world. Anyone can make a person cry... *Pinch* Or, you could talk about dead puppies. You'll get someone crying, to be sure.
Ultimately, I want to remind people of how FUNNY the writers of ME are. Come on, the mental picture Angel gets of what he'd look like dancing at a party? Remember how good Cordy used to be? Lord, was that character funny. Demon Rogue Hunter?? "You do! You do doodle, too!" That's gold, baby. So you have someone that I love (and will 'til the day I die)crazydiamondsue who writes some owie, chest clutching fic. And has a joke to break the tension. Which underscores the owie. And makes the characters more real. This post brought to you by the Crazydiamond Sue for President Foundation
And I know there are a bunch of you on my flist who avoid my parodies like the PLAGUE. I know who you are, dont think you're fooling me. And I know it's because you worship the ground James, or David (or fill in the blank walks upon, and to read about Spike being miniaturized and shoved up Angel's bum is distasteful. I can't believe I just wrote that sentence. Ha!! But... I write that as a comic foil to the angst and OOC stuff I find out there. Little One? And Spike (a mass-murderer who most likely killed over 10,000 people - 2 bodies a week for 126 years, thankskarabair for the math) cuddle wuddles in Angel's lap and purrs? I just... Huh? Did you not WATCH the same show as me?
And so... I mock. Good-naturedly, and nothing I wouldn't call myself on. But I'm a fan of the Airplane movies and of Top Secret and Jim frickin' Carrey, so it should be expected that I'm sacriligeous. But the funny (to me, at least) is to take these super serious scenarios (say... childhood prostitution) and make them so far-fetched that you can't help but laugh at it. I'll be the first to say that pedophilia and incest make me want to light torches and burn the monster. But.
Someone commented on the Connie fic and said: I love how EVERYONE wants to be with Connie. Thanks!! You GOT IT!! I'd say 90% of my flist HATES Connor. (Which is a topic for another day because you people don't underSTAND!) So, I'll make him the object of everyone's affection, including his dad's. Who normally can't be affectionate because he'll turn into a monster. So let's make him a monster if he DOESN'T sleep with his kid. Absurdity: it's a way of life. Or poor Spike. How that vamp's cock hasn't fallen off with the sheer volume of fucking he does... So I'll make him 5 inches tall and climb up someone's butt and make it about his PARTNER instead of the glorious 15 Foot Dick he has. That egresses. Soupy cream of cum. WOW.
I guess ultimately, I'm rebelling against the lack (I could be just missing them. PLEASE let me know where to find the Jossonianesque - heh- fics) of humor amongst the angst, pain, love, sex, food. Always need food. Or maybe I just need lunch.
I know not everyone likes the stuff I bring to the table. This isn't about that. It's about living in darkness and angst in EVERYTHING. And, to use a famous quote, "I can't help you out of that hole if I climb down in it with you."
I'll be over here, playing with my toys, wishing you all a great, sunshiney, happy-filled day.
mpoetess and wendylouwho. Hope your b-days are filled with good stuff, food, friends, and laughter.Now, perhaps you've heard of this show called Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and it's L'il Brudder, Angel...
Do you know about this? Have you heard about this? And for those of you who have been around these parts a spell may have noticed that I like the funny. Stoney loves the jokey jokey. But that doesn't mean that's all there is here: poop/dick jokes. Okay, it's a big part of what's here, but there's a reason. Let's all jump into the way-back machine...
Laughter is the Best Medicine
It's an old saying, but god, isn't it true? how many times have you been with a friend, snot on your face, chest heaving with sobs, and they'll pull a face, or make a joke and it just gets... easier? Not for always, but right then? Or there's something horrible happening in the world, and Jon Stewart and the gang at TDS just rip it apart and make you laugh at it? And instead of feeling a cloud hanging over your head, you can laugh at the absurdity of it all? Because folks, life is fucking absurd. Michael Jackson may get off. (ba dum bum ching!) Bush is in the White House. Again. Laugh or cry. I pick laugh.
Now, how the hell does this fit into BtVS and fandom? Well, I'll tell you. Without the jokes, Buffy and Angel would just be another show. Yes, the dialogue is phenomenal. The angst is so, so hurty. But I can think of ten shows that have that. Now, throw in how goddamned funny (and angsty, and philosphical, and well written) it was/is, and now you have something that is so incredibly unique, we're all hanging out here everyday making new stories, essays, songs, art, etc. Because the show was/is so freakin' good.
And I'll admit that I'm late to the game of fandom. Never wrote fanfic before Buffy. Didn't know people did that sort of thing. I was stuck with all my wanna be artist friends writing bad poetry, essays, etc. and wishing I could go write for SNL one day. Or anything on Adult Swim. So when I found "this," I soaked up Philly like a SPONGE. Read anything and everything coming down the pike, trying to figure it out. And realized: lots of ff writers must read a LOT of Anne Rice. And make Spike and Co. dress up their mouths in Anne's words. Which isn't Joss and ME's words. But... to each his own, right?
And I kept reading (I don't always comment. If I am not onboard with the fic, I may keep reading and not fb, or I may click away. But I check out a LOT of stuff out there) and started getting depressed. Because it seems like THE VAST MAJORITY OF FF WRITERS write the sad stuff. They (certain writers) like to hurt, bang and bruise my beloved characters - over and over and over and.... And again, to each his own.
But why I may not want to read that type of fic is because that writer seems to have forgetten a fundamental element of EVERY SINGLE BUFFY/ANGEL EPISODE. There was a joke. In every one. And it helps the story. It helps the tension. It helps make things REAL.
Example, using two of the most hurty episodes on Buffy. Ones I go ahead and grab the box of tissues and a cat in preparation.
The Body
Oh, Joyce. I just bawl in this one every single time. When Anya is crying and trying to make sense of how Joyce won't ever have ______ again, and how stupid and mortal death is.... How perfectly sad and raw that is. And then Xander wants to kill something and Willow pouts and puts up her dukes. How I miss that relationship between those friends. Or Xander punching the wall and being stuck. Tension breaker, had to be done. (You can't cry ALL the time. You have to let SOMETHING else out of your system.)
The Gift
I'm a sucker for the swan-dive. Oh, Buffy... With your pants creeping up your tushie... (I wonder If SMG ever watches that and wishes she could have pulled those pretty pants out of her crack?) But back to the episode. Ow. Gratitude mixed with incredible sadness. All of the gang creeping to her broken body (oh, I could cry just typing this!) Giles having to look away and mentally steeling himself to LOOK. To WATCH and later, record. Spike. Dawn. Willow crying on Tara. (I'm totally bawling now.) And then.... Tombstone. It's the "A Lot" at the end. So perfect. A smile when we REALLY need one.
I'll let you in on a secret: wanna know why S6 didn't work for so many of you? Willow/Xander snark is gone. Xan/Anya snark is gone. Buffy/Giles snark is gone. Re-watch it and tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. Dare ya. Dark, dark, trouble, gloom. Bah. THAT'S why you don't like it. Oh, yeah, and the character assasination. But that's because they were all FUNNY!! And then they weren't!
And, um, that's why I may not be reading your fics. Not *you* you, but some of you out there that I don't know well. You're writing the dark and more dark and gloom and where's the levity?
And then there's me. And I'll be the first to tell you I'm wrong. I am! I laugh at HORRIBLY INAPPROPRIATE things. Because I'll cry about them, otherwise. I saw the pilot ep of South Park (my god, has it been 9 years??) and thought the heavens had split open and a light was shining down on me. These... these are my people. They joke about NAMBLA. About sex-change operations. About a shitty, mean fat kid who's mom is a German Porno star and a hermaphrodite.
And I know from funny. Bob Newhart? Fucking hilarious. So dry I need a glass of water to watch his act. Don Rickles? Dear, god. In your face, insulting, balls-to-the-wall funny. Totally opposite humor from Bob Newhart. Would it surprise some of you to know they have been best friends for over 40 years? I STILL laugh at things Mark Twain wrote. Carol Burnett was my GOD when I was a child. Screw Lucille Ball (I can't stand her, BTW), gimmie Carol Burnett as Mrs. huWiggins, or as Scarlett O'Hara with the curtains literally draped off her shoulders. She was my first hero. I spent five years working the comedy circuit learning the art of a joke. How to make people in front of you laugh. How to make a joke come full circle in a ten minute set. Not always a winner, because the shit is HARD. But that's mostly delivery....
There are a lot of talented writers out here. So talented I boggle at them not being paid to continue to entertain me with their turn of a phrase. You can *write* and write well, but don't be afraid of the joke. Don't be afraid to make people laugh out loud. It's one of the most powerful feelings in the world. Anyone can make a person cry... *Pinch* Or, you could talk about dead puppies. You'll get someone crying, to be sure.
Ultimately, I want to remind people of how FUNNY the writers of ME are. Come on, the mental picture Angel gets of what he'd look like dancing at a party? Remember how good Cordy used to be? Lord, was that character funny. Demon Rogue Hunter?? "You do! You do doodle, too!" That's gold, baby. So you have someone that I love (and will 'til the day I die)
crazydiamondsue who writes some owie, chest clutching fic. And has a joke to break the tension. Which underscores the owie. And makes the characters more real. This post brought to you by the Crazydiamond Sue for President FoundationAnd I know there are a bunch of you on my flist who avoid my parodies like the PLAGUE. I know who you are, dont think you're fooling me. And I know it's because you worship the ground James, or David (or fill in the blank walks upon, and to read about Spike being miniaturized and shoved up Angel's bum is distasteful. I can't believe I just wrote that sentence. Ha!! But... I write that as a comic foil to the angst and OOC stuff I find out there. Little One? And Spike (a mass-murderer who most likely killed over 10,000 people - 2 bodies a week for 126 years, thanks
karabair for the math) cuddle wuddles in Angel's lap and purrs? I just... Huh? Did you not WATCH the same show as me?And so... I mock. Good-naturedly, and nothing I wouldn't call myself on. But I'm a fan of the Airplane movies and of Top Secret and Jim frickin' Carrey, so it should be expected that I'm sacriligeous. But the funny (to me, at least) is to take these super serious scenarios (say... childhood prostitution) and make them so far-fetched that you can't help but laugh at it. I'll be the first to say that pedophilia and incest make me want to light torches and burn the monster. But.
Someone commented on the Connie fic and said: I love how EVERYONE wants to be with Connie. Thanks!! You GOT IT!! I'd say 90% of my flist HATES Connor. (Which is a topic for another day because you people don't underSTAND!) So, I'll make him the object of everyone's affection, including his dad's. Who normally can't be affectionate because he'll turn into a monster. So let's make him a monster if he DOESN'T sleep with his kid. Absurdity: it's a way of life. Or poor Spike. How that vamp's cock hasn't fallen off with the sheer volume of fucking he does... So I'll make him 5 inches tall and climb up someone's butt and make it about his PARTNER instead of the glorious 15 Foot Dick he has. That egresses. Soupy cream of cum. WOW.
I guess ultimately, I'm rebelling against the lack (I could be just missing them. PLEASE let me know where to find the Jossonianesque - heh- fics) of humor amongst the angst, pain, love, sex, food. Always need food. Or maybe I just need lunch.
I know not everyone likes the stuff I bring to the table. This isn't about that. It's about living in darkness and angst in EVERYTHING. And, to use a famous quote, "I can't help you out of that hole if I climb down in it with you."
I'll be over here, playing with my toys, wishing you all a great, sunshiney, happy-filled day.
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Date: 2005-05-03 02:52 pm (UTC)i agree with you in giant capital letter type agreement but...
in my own writing i don't go for the funny very often. mostly because i don't think i'm a particularly funny writer. i'm a pretty funny person in real life, but a lot of that funny relies on a careful combination of self-deprecation and funny noises and hand gestures. in terms of trying to write funny things i have a hard time.
i think this is part of why i tend to stick to short pieces (i have two long WIPs that i started last summer but we will not speak of them). i think that you can have a short piece that is angsty as hell. or even angsty with a sweet resolution without the necessity of intense and well executed humor.
the humor is SO key to the jossverse, but as someone who doesn't write it well i tend not to write it much at all.
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Date: 2005-05-03 03:06 pm (UTC)I would have to say that I appreciate the attempt. Honest and for true. So, if that's what's holding you back, don't let it. I'll recognize the joke, give you props, and keep on keeping on.
I mentioned above in a thread that for short fics, or ficlets (which tend to read like a missing scene, yes?) it's appropriate to have one emotion running strong: angst, hurt, love, sex, whatever. No issues with that, and I've written some short fics without the funny.
But I guess I'm referring to some who write and write and write and it's all so sad and dreary and ouchie and on and on and on and they've obviously read a LOT of Anne Rice and everything is so BLEAK. And they enter a ficathon/swap thing and say for the line: what WON'T you read/write, and they reply: humor.
And my chin drops.
Because... didn't you watch the show? You won't READ humor? (You make a valid point about the writing of it, but reading??) I guess that overall, I'm a happy person, an optimist, a bright-light kind of person, and I delight in dragging people up here in the sunshine with me. ANd watching that grin crack across their face. So... I kinda don't "get" someone who HATES the funny.
But you've made a valid point about being uncomfortable WRITING it. My knee-jerk is to go for it, but then, I'm not taking into account those who are perfectionists, and if it ain't perfect, they don't want it.
Oh, I love having my tree shook. :-D
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Date: 2005-05-03 03:13 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-05-03 03:16 pm (UTC)Oh, and the icon of hotness. *drools over my lovely VK* I thank you.
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Date: 2005-05-03 03:14 pm (UTC)perhaps it's that people associate humor with fluff which is a much maligned category of fic.
people think that unless it's dark and they are crying it's not *real* or *literary* or something. maybe it's just that they are taking themselves too damn seriously.
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Date: 2005-05-03 03:30 pm (UTC)And this flat part up here? *points to top of nail*
*takes hammer, smashes down*
CHINK.
Nail. On. The. Head. That's IT!!!
It's the too damn seriously bit. And it makes me think of the Goth kids on SP in the Talent Show. "I don't want to be in your talent show!" "I hope we win."
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Date: 2005-05-03 04:00 pm (UTC)Oh. My. God. YES! And look at this funny picture of people screaming at vampires. Real ones - without chips, souls or triggers...
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Date: 2005-05-04 05:36 pm (UTC)Because I represent the And they enter a ficathon/swap thing and say for the line: what WON'T you read/write, and they reply: humor. Don't get me wrong I love humor but yeah, a lot of it falls under the unbelievable category for me. And don't even get me started on a rant about fluff. I end up finding stuff much like what you talked about in your post.
And Spike (a mass-murderer who most likely killed over 10,000 people - 2 bodies a week for 126 years, thanks
I just don't get that kind of stuff and so avoid it like the plague. Plus, for ficathons...I can't write humor. I just can't do it. I try to add in subtle hints of it, a very low key version of ME's take on it...to break the tension, but other than that? It ain't happening. So for ficathons, it is better to be honest about your capabilities.
I do appreciate satirical humor. I adored Wee!Spike. That stuff just tickles my underside. But it is the fluff/humor fics that make it seem like the show was one big dork-a-thon that I just don't understand.
I adore the humor that you were referencing earlier, stuff like in SMCD, where the humor is slotted into the angst. I love that stuff! Think it is the best thing since sliced bread! But it is very difficult to pull off well and even though I try, I don't think I can come close to what writers like Sue can pull off.
As for me personally....I like to think I'm a pretty fun-loving, happy sort of girl that tries to take the fandom at face value, understanding that getting a lot of people together can cause issues to manifest themselves but also understands that a difference of opinion isn't the end of the world. Plus, I've got a wicked sense of humor. So I don't really take myself seriously...too much. ;-) At least I don't think I do? *scratches head*
And yet, I adore Angst! It is my absolute fav of all the types of fics. I don't know why. Maybe I like the fact that my life isn't as bad as all that. I'm not being tortured my some big demon as his love slave. I just have bills to pay and a cat that won't stop pestering me till I feed him. Maybe I like the dark and gloomy because I can walk into the light when I put it away. Hmm. I'll have to think on this.
I like happy girls!! And cocks! I like them, too!
Date: 2005-05-04 06:35 pm (UTC)But I get that a lot of folks out here aren't sure of themselves/comfortable/capable of the funny. It's more the folks who HATE funny. Huh? Wanting to read something hurty? Sho nuff. No worries. But I really don't get how someone can say they HATE things that are funny. But that's about me, isn't it?
I think I have people who look down on me for the silly/funny/laugh out loud stuff, and I think I'm defending myself, if that makes any sense? Like, well, I dare YOU to try it? Which shows how petty I really am.
Can I buy you a pony? (And dude, I've seen you around. You got game. Hee!!)
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Date: 2005-05-04 07:57 pm (UTC)Anyway, definitely not pooh-poohing the funny. Or hating it...for fend! For me it's like dialogue...follow me here...I can't do it. No way, no how. So when I see people pull it off and in fantabulous ways I can't help but be awed. However, with the great parodies of our time, is also the great OOC's that saturate the humor/fluff category. And maybe it would be better to separate the two. I'm more likely to read humor than fluff.
I guess I see fluff as the flip side of this coin. Where angst might be void of funny, fluff is void of angst. And while maybe one is more mainstream then the other, they are both lacking the subtle nuance that the show had by bringing them together. Perhaps, it is simply harder to incorporate angst into fluff without destroying your fluff cred and yet, introducing some funny to de-stress angst isn't going to destroy your angst. Double standard? Maybe. Or maybe it is just harder to find the balance of the fluffy piece with added angst...and yet, ME did it all the time.
One of my all time favorite episodes was fluff. Something Blue while being mostly funny and silly, still had undercurrents of angst. Giles drinking, Anya and Xander's argument, Buffy's angst about her possible relationship and, of course, Willow's oh so angsty angst about Oz's departure.
So yeah, I like the funny but as a counter point to angst...and vice versa.
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Date: 2005-05-04 08:15 pm (UTC)Number 2) I know you from Sue's flist, and phone calls where we talk about the good writers out there. :-)
Number 3) See here? *points down* This board: we are standing on it together. Yes, yes.
And I'm glad you've identified that fluff and funny are two different things. Caddyshack? Funny. Meg Ryan flicks? Fluff. Is there funny in the twee? Sometimes. I would rather have (like you've said) a combo of the good, ouchie angst underscored with some funny as a tension breaker. Let the reader catch their breath, then hit 'em again.
Friending you so I can keep up with the good stuff, missy!
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Date: 2005-05-04 11:05 pm (UTC)Number 2) *blush*
Number 3) Boards are good, as long as it isn't a plank and I'm about to get dunked. *g*
Good stuff is few and far between but I don't spam and I know how to use an LJ cut so...go me! Friending you back...because I should have done it ages ago.
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Date: 2005-05-04 08:18 pm (UTC)However, the scene in "Bargaining" where there are urn of Osiris ebay jokes? Falls totally flat to me. I really don't think that a jokey-joke of that nature fits the seriousness of the facing the idea of bringing Buffy back. And, again, the other reason I wrote SMCD was so that I could make them grieve, just a bit, rather than immediately rushing to bring her back and making zombie jokes. You have to know when the funny works, and when it's just to much. Even Xander knew when the moment needed to observed and not snarked at.
But a little snarky banter will pull me in where all the hot-guy action in the world just won't. (And you can hide behind me any time, but Stoney's pretty tame. Her is snark is worse than her bite. *wink*)
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Date: 2005-05-04 10:49 pm (UTC)Yeah, it is very important to note what is going on and how exactly the characters would normally react. For instance, Xander crying..do we ever see it happen? Ever?! Even in The Body...not a tear. He'll hit things before he'll cry. The same thing can be said for the funny. Where will it go? How much is too much or how little is too little?
I don't have a clue! That's why I ask you! *bg*
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Date: 2005-05-03 08:50 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-05-03 05:21 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-05-03 08:52 pm (UTC)I'm just all gobsmacky about the "no humor" thing.
I mean, Angel is Mr. Broody McBrood Pants, but he's still funny.