LOST. It's killing me. AHHHHH!!!

[stoney321]

I have wasted my whole day on this. What is "this?" Well, I'll tell you.

4 8 15 16 23 42

That's what. Take away 42 (the bonus number, fans of Hitchhiker's Guide know that it's the "answer to life." So, take that number away and you have a series of nonprime number of 1s in binary expansion. Which means.... nothing.

Or, (I swear to god, I am not making this up) you can use the WOLFRAM SEQUENCE and obtain those numbers. But... all that means is David Fury (who wrote last night's LOST ep) is having fun. They aren't Fibonacci, they aren't Apocolyptic Numbers (there is such a thing: derivatives of 666, unless you break the sequence apart, and that's cheating), or Odius Numbers... I have one theory left: Leviathan Number. My brain hurts and my ass hurts, but here's the formula: (10⁶⁶⁶)! where ! = factorial. Anyone?

Also, if you plug in the numbers here in the following sequence: Latitude: 4 8 15, tab over to Longitude and enter: 16 23 42, you can see the satellite image is over a chain of islands near Australia. But it CAN'T be that simple? I need to stand up and walk around now... Brain... Hurting....

Comments

[uberaeryn.livejournal.com]

AIGH!

U MAKE MY BRIAN HERT BAD

Those numbers are Buffy's cell. I'm fairly certain.

[stoney321.livejournal.com]

BWAH!!!

Did anyone catch the combination to the briefcase? I have so much in my head regarding the numbers/curse thing.

Hurley is fine, but those around him are cursed. He owns the box company Locke worked for. he was on the TV when Jin was beating/not beating the factory guy, which Hurley has interest in (I think?), and got his money from the same bank that was held up, his GF died, had a pacemaker put in, which is what Jack's dad was - heart surgeon...

CONNECTIONS CONNECTIONS, and the crazy guy was playing CONNECT 4. NOT a coincidence. or WAS IT!!?? Also, the number combo is possibly checkers moves? I don't know backgammon - maybe related?

The numbers themselves aren't evil: it's using them to WIN or get GAIN that makes them evil/cursed. Which is why I think they may be coordinates: Danielle's ship heard the numbers, possibly checked into the coordinates, and ran aground.

Also, I have a distinct "Tommyknockers" feeling about that flippin' thing in the ground, and if Jimmy SMits shows up, I'm gone. PLEASE! Don't screw with me! My brain hurts!

[thebratqueen.livejournal.com]

All of last night's ep had a nice Stephen King-ish vibe to it. And this from someone who normally doesn't like King.

[stoney321.livejournal.com]

I liked the BOOK of Tommyknockers. Creepy Sci-Fi to a point. Rented the movie and LAUGHED, then pulled it out of the VCR after a few minutes. I have a theory that Jimmy Smits = bad. Mainly because I don't feel the JS love, and I know lots of people do.

I... I just hope they don't dig up the thing with the numbers and doors and have the sequence be the key to unloack it. Too simple. Or have the metal thing turn into a buried alien city.

I'm with Hurley on the head scratching about the lack of interest in the friggin' POLAR BEAR.

[crayonbreakygal.livejournal.com]

No way! I missed all of that. Really? It's all that connected? So, like I'm gonna have to buy the first season just to see all of these things you saw? Man, I need to pay better attention.

[stoney321.livejournal.com]

Gah. SOOOOO need to visit bittorrent sites and get the first eps. I want to see if there are hints before-hand about this sequence like there were about Hurley.

Saves me from checking out the message boards with the teribal gremer and OMG liek posts. ;-D

[julia-here.livejournal.com]

This is all much too computational for me.

Julia, who blew out math circuits yesterday trying to explain Knot Theory and why no, it's not part of String Theory.

[stoney321.livejournal.com]

Knot theory... 3 D objects? String Theory: related to radiation/black holes? It's been a looooong time.


My head hurts for the both of us. Maybe. My friend who runs a horse farm up in Wisconsin (she helps birth the foals) sends you positive thoughts and cyber shoulder pats.

[julia-here.livejournal.com]

Yeah, that's basically it; knot theory seeks to describe all possible knots, a knot being described as a single friction free thread arranged in such a way that pulling on the ends doesn't pull it apart (therefore bows and slipknots are defined as -knots, or, for the witty, notknots.

I know this only because I spent six weeks answering the phone and telling people no one was in the office, and I didn't know where they were, and reading back issues of "Science".

Thanks to your friend for the good wishes. No new calves here today (the bulk of the herd being at the BIL's place) but there are two cows walking very funny.

Julia, sort of the converse of infinite monkeys with infinite typewriters: me and Science and noting else to do

[netweight]

*has not seen this show for it does not start airing here till Sunday*

*ADORES your icon anyway*

*has been corrupted by Joss with Dru/Spike and Simon/River*

*is a pervert*

*does not care*

[stoney321.livejournal.com]

I'll just say that the character's name is Boone, he's VERY pretty, but quasi-interesting on the show. But he looks GOOD in eyeliner.

And the icon caption makes me laugh.

[mangosorbet007.livejournal.com]

Monday, here! Yay!

[marlo.livejournal.com]

hah! See the first thing on my list of interests! ;D

p.s. I suck at math.

[stoney321.livejournal.com]

BWAH!!! You rule, Marlo. I need Data. He'd figure it out right smart.

I kinda suck at math, too, I just have good books left over. (Well, I did well at math I just don't LOVE it.)

[marlo.livejournal.com]

Yes, Data would cock his head in that odd Data way, and articulately, matter-of-factly, rattle off any number of ways the numbers could relate to each other. But he still doesn't know how to love. Star Trek likes to stick to the heavy-handed, tried-and-true sci-fi themes. ;)

I know you're just being humble, and you actually are good with numbers. I love you for it.

Math was not my worst subject in school only because I hated PE so much that I refused to try. Numbers make my palms sweat and my heart race. They confuse me. But we can't all be good at everything. The world just doesn't work that way! I'll stick to learning Chinese over here in my little language-nerd corner. ;)

[stoney321.livejournal.com]

Uh... trade ya? (I want to be able to learn Chinese or Japanese at some point in my life. I SUCK at languages. Fortunately, my husband picks up languages like 5 dollar whores. Huh?)

[ros-fod.livejournal.com]

The only thing that I can think of is Hebrew letters corresponding to numbers. But that's because I just saw Pi (http://www.pithemovie.com/gifpage.html).

That guy went crazy, too.

*headdesk*

[stoney321.livejournal.com]

*cries*
No... no more possibilities... Haven't seen Pi, but it's about the Kabbalah in numerical form? Am I off base? I tried running the numbers through the Bible Code (hee!) and nothing. Read a theory about the numbers corresponding to chapters of Genesis, but that's a bit much. Cain/Abel? Don't see a correlation on the show.

Must... drink... Don't stack the beer bottles into patterns or sequences...

[ros-fod.livejournal.com]

Well, Pi is about the stock market. Kind of.

But! Yes, the main character meets an Orthodox Jew who is studying the Kabbalah, and he explains how, for example, there's a mathematical equivalent to all the letters of the Hebrew alphabet, and it all works out in this freaky way. So (I don't remember the exact correlations, but) the numerical value for all the letters that make up the word "man" = 10 and the numerical value for all the letters that make up the word "woman" = 12, and in a miraculous way, the numerical value for all the letters that make up the word "child" = 22.

The actual point of the movie is that there's a key, someplace, a mathematical key that will allow you to use this Kabbalist code to figure out the name of God.

[ros-fod.livejournal.com]

Okay, and so the Name of God is supposed to be 42 letters.

DUN DUN DUN!!

[stoney321.livejournal.com]

YES!!! GOD = POLAR BEAR!! I friggin' KNEW it. Wait. I didn't know that.

I knew the basic idea of the Kabbalah/numerical thingy, and I believe the wackos that created the "Bible Code" stole that concept.

The whole stock market thing should be the Fibonacci sequence (arcs, rays) if I pull back in the recesses of my past life as a number cruncher for NYSE, NASDAQ, etc.

I swear to Yahweh - or Poseidon - that the key is that friggin' toy airplane Kate took!!!

*puts ice pack on head, ignores doctors sneaking up on me with tranq guns*

[crayonbreakygal.livejournal.com]

Those numbers will drive us crazy from now until the show gets cancelled. That's my theory. Gotta love David Fury. I sure do. We'll throw Hurly in there too. I can't believe it! Thanks for all tying up those loose ends.

[stoney321.livejournal.com]

Gah. Those loose ends are flappin' in the breeze. I seriously am entertained by this show. And when is Sawyer gettin' naked and crying?

[zyrya]

I can't get the map thingo to work, but maybe that's where 'Lost' is filmed? The ads for the show keep bleating it's "based out of Australia".

[stoney321.livejournal.com]

It takes place in an uncharted (maybe?) island 100 miles away from Australia, where the doomed flight originated from. It was headed to LAX, but went waaaaay off course. The digital satellite image shows a chain of islands near Micronesia/Java.

I believe the show is filmed in Hawaii. Tough life for those actors, huh? ;-)

[dusty273.livejournal.com]

*lol* Show doesn't air here until Monday, so I really don't have any idea of what you're talking about. Although I think sometimes we overlook the simple things because they are simple and turn to be the answer?

*hugs you and hopes your brain stops hurting*

Mari

[stoney321.livejournal.com]

Hee!! I'm just being obsessive and avoiding laundry. Ugh. Whites = mismatched socks for 5 people.

[slackerace.livejournal.com]

FREAK!!

::runs and hides::

[stoney321.livejournal.com]

Ha ha ha!!! When I go crazy, and Hillary Swank plays me (getting beat up - she does in every movie) and wins an OSCAR, you'll be sorry you called me names!!

*cries, draws ellipses in the dirt, rocks slowly*

[ex-dovil323.livejournal.com]

If I throw a box of matches on the floor can you tell me how many there are? I'm so taking you to the Casino when I come over.

[stoney321.livejournal.com]

Definitely Iris. Shiny. I gotta date with Iris. 97X BAM! The future of rock and roll.

[cityphonelines.livejournal.com]

You nerd!

Math bad. And Lost has... lost me. Well, it never really had me but I tried soooo hard to get into it. I meander in periodically while my Pop watches it; he's hooked.
*tattoos 'NERD ALERT!' on your forehead*

[stoney321.livejournal.com]

*figure out math equation that enables Stoney to more effectively KICK YOUR ASS*

[lynnenne]

I heard that if you take the Fibonaci sequence and divide by the number of triangles in the Great Pyramid, subtract the secret number of the Sphynx, square the whole, then raise it all to the power of the sacred bones of the Holy Grail, you get 4 8 15 16 23 42 divided by Pi.

Or maybe it's the number to David Fury's Swiss bank account. Now if we can just find that damn key...

[stoney321.livejournal.com]

DON'T YOU MOCK ME!!

And, hello! If you read the whole post you'd see I tried all the Fibonacci sequences (arcs, rays, etc.) and they DON'T WORK. *cries*

Kate has the key. THAT'S WHAT THE AIRPLANE IS. OMFG!!

DOn't make me come up there and Donkey Punch you.

[lynnenne]

Ow! *rubs back of head* I would never think of mocking you and your mathly endeavors. I was actually mocking "The DaVinci Code," which I just finished reading. Interesting theories, but god... the worst novel ever. Characterization? Narrative? Bah! The author should change his name to Jake the Explainer.

[stoney321.livejournal.com]

I believe that if we look hard enough at Monet's "Water Lilies" (print only, preferable locker-size) that the key to the sequence lies THERE.

(I TOTALLY concur about the daVinci code. And the "tours" the "guide to's" and such EVERYWHERE are driving me loco.

[somecandytalkin.livejournal.com]

You just made me have to go eat more Girl Scout Thin Mint Cookies.

[somecandytalkin.livejournal.com]

And watch Deadwood. Can't wait to see your Calamity Jane, cocksucker!

[stoney321.livejournal.com]

Goddamn cocksucker. Gimmie a drink. Bill'd know the answer. Er shoot the bastard keepin' it from me.

*eats cookies with you*

[anelith.livejournal.com]

My husband had some fun with polynomials (and got sidetracked into base 9). I cut and pasted his email here:


OK, 4,8,15,16,23,42

Let’s try base 9: 4,8,14,15,21,38 = 2*2, 2*2*2 , 2*7, 3*5, 3*7, 2*19 not much there.


Let’s find the smallest order (5th) polynomial that fits that series, i=1,2,3,4,5,6,

F(i) = (1/40) * [2400 – 4896 i + 3670 i*i - 1175 i*i*i +170 i*i*i*i – 9 i*i*i*i*i]

F(1,2,3,4,5,6) = 4,8,15,16,23,42


The next number in the series is F(7)= 46 (humm)

But F(8)=-52, and the rest are very negative.

Personally, I think this is all flogging it. There are an infinite number of 6 parameter functions that will fit the series.


But it was kinda fun.

Ron

[stoney321.livejournal.com]

It has a basis in the Apocalyptic number, if you play around:
4+8+1+5+1+6+2+3=3
4+2=6, 3 6s, but that is STRETCHING it a bit.

My question (if it is some obscure equation) is what is the purpose? A code for unlocking something? TO keeping something at bay? Coordinates? Chemical code? Alpha-numeric code?

Please, don't let the show get cancelled... You'll find me in a padded room drawing numbers and Connect 4 games on the walls... Hee!

[anelith.livejournal.com]

Just saw in thebratqueen's journal -- she pointed us to catscradle's post where if you look down the page she makes several observations about the numbers that are very interesting, and not at all what's been going on in these comments. But probably more likely, given the fact that David Fury is (to my best knowledge) not a mathematician).

NERD ALERT - hey, at least I'm not writing child abuse/incest fic, right?

[stoney321.livejournal.com]

I read that, too, but the problem I have with that is that you have to disregard half of the numbers in the sequence, and then what the hell is the point of the numbers? You know? (Meaning, you drop 4, 16, and 42. I can understand dropping 42 from the chain, since it was a bonus number, but the others?) So, while it was fun in college to get drunk and think about the significance of 23, I can't see how it plays any significance in this.

Of course, I'm tking this waaaaay too seriously, according to above.

If you take out 42 (and give it the Hitchhicker's Guide's meaning = meaning of it all) the other numbers are an extrapolation of a binary string of 1s. Which could mean a computer intelligence, or higher-order type thing.

Am I the only one who read the Vinge books: Summer Queen and Snow Queen? Where there was a super computer that affected an entire universe and it's creation? (It's where - I suspect - Lucas got the whole "mitichondrian" element of Star Wars.)

Re: NERD ALERT - hey, at least I'm not writing child abuse/incest fic, right?

[anelith.livejournal.com]

I didn't think she disregarded the other numbers -- I thought they were all added up to get 48 (the number of survivors)? Maybe I read it wrong.

I did read Vinge's Summer Queen and Snow Queen, but it was so long ago I frankly don't remember much about them. My long-term memory is worth nothing... That's why I collect books, because to me, when I reread them it's like having a brand-new book!

[vincitveritas.livejournal.com]

I love your brain.

I was a wee bit, um, fucked-up when I watched that episode. I didn't want to sleep afterwards. Numbers are scary.